Keep Families United- Over to you, now
Monday 9 July was a good day and a bad day. Bad, because the family Immigration Rule changes were introduced. Take a look at our dossier of case studies and analysis for a detailed look at the changes and how they will affect people. It was a good day because we witnessed the start of a vibrant campaign against these draconian measures.
Working closely with the Migrants Rights Network we organised a successful protest at the Home Office, drawing more than 120 people to Marsham Street, a number that far outstripped expectations. After that scores of people went on to Parliament to meet their MPs face to face to tell them their concerns and difficulties at the new immigration Rule changes. At 6.30pm we held a meeting addressed by MPs, campaigners and people directly affected by the Rules in the Grand Committee Room.
We have to apologise to those who came and were not allowed in to the room. We were not aware of how the fire limit would be imposed on the meeting room, and we were overwhelmed at the attendance. There were people sitting on the floor, standing at the back and sharing chairs – over 150 in all.
Elsewhere there are reports on what was said by whom, but the purpose of this piece is to attempt to help make the actions of Monday count.
Parliamentary Opposition
The meeting was addressed by five MPs, there were many other MPs who told us they could not attend the meeting due to previous engagements. For MPs opposed to the Rule changes there is one thing that they must do. That is to sign the Early Day motion (No 297) laid by John McDonnell which simply reads:
That the Statement of Changes in Immigration Rules (HC 194), a copy of which was laid before this House on 13 June 2012, be disapproved.
This motion needs urgent support. To secure a debate in the House of Commons about the above, the above motion needs significant support, including that of Opposition frontbenchers by 22 July.
It is all well and good for MPs to say they oppose these measures. It means nothing until they sign that motion. If they fail to do this in significant numbers the Rules, which have already started to make people’s lives a misery will continue to do so for the indefinite future. We have written to MPs urging them to sign the motion, but we need you to do the same. In particular we need you to contact the Shadow Immigration Minister, Chris Bryant, and urge him to put his name to this. You can write to him at bryantc@parliament.uk
Anguish
At the meeting, Emily Churchill spoke. She successfully fought for her Palestinian husband to join her here, but went through the anguish and heartache of several refusals of visas and the accompanying separation from her spouse. She also spoke of a woman who was not at the meeting as she was giving birth to her twins that day. With her husband stuck in Jordan trying to learn enough English to satisfy the requirements, on the day their son and daughter were born the Home Secretary moved the goal posts in their quest for family unity.
Unless MPs want to have the stain of more divided families on their consciences, they must sign that motion.
We ask again for people to contact their MPs with this specific request, to once more write to Chris Bryant, shadow Immigration Minister to demand he adds his name to the list. We might win.
Broad support
If we do not win, the campaign will steel itself for bigger and better battles. We were enthused by the appearance on our protest of a couple of trade union banners, from Unison and UCU. We took strength from the array of people showing support and we will, along with other organisations be pulling together a broader campaign group.
We aim to take the issue into the communities and constituencies. Monday’s turnout, on a miserable Monday evening in Central London was good, but it showed us there are thousands of people we need to involve in this campaign.
That is our aim. It starts with pressurising your MPs to stand up and be counted.
Comments
I asked Chris Bryant to sign the EDM. Without telling me whether or not he would, he told me today that "I gather there will be a debate about immigration in September when the house returns".
Richard.
What does he mean by that?
I to have written to Chris Bryant, but all he could do is to refer me to my MP. As a Channel Islander I do not have the services of any UK MP's to petition even though all British citizens of the Channel Islands have to comply with the UK Immigration deterrents (sorry, Rules) before entrance clearance can be obtained for my spouse to the Channel Islands. We are not part of the UK, but still have to comply with the UK Immigration requirements. What chance will my wife stand to pass a English History test when we are not part of the UK (so why) and I am from French descent
In todays Independent is a report that the Office of Budget Responsibility that was set up by Chancellor George Osbourne has sated that migrants should be allowed into the UK to cut £billions from the UKs defecit!
It states that the OBR says - ' is all migration ended tomorrowthe UKs average annual growth rate would fall to 2 percent and the national debt would spiral to 120 percent of GDP by the middle of the century!
Now this is Chancellor Osbournes own watchdog department whic high lights the true fallacy of the xenophobic racist immigration policy of Cameron May and Green.
Add to this the foulup up of GS4 failure to provide security for the Olympics again the reponsibility of Mays own department the Home Office.
Then the ever increasing Heathrow UKBA fiasco to man the passport desks!
Add to that the report by the Guardian that SERCO guards are being investigated after alleged failures to operate detection equipment and detect vehicles maybe carrying contents which could be used to make 'dirty bombs'!
Then Cameron May and Green their Tory immigration policy is a complete failure for the safety and economy of the UK - proving they and the UKBA / Home Office aren't fit for purpose!
Now the breaking news that the police will have to step in for the Olympics security because of the G4S failure all because Cameron May and Green are truly totally incompetent!
The DM reports that Britain has allowed a refugee who raped a girl of 12 to stay in the UK.
It also reports a Taliban soldier has been allowed to stay in the uk.
Then an Iraqi plane hijacker has been allowed to stay in the UK after a 16 year Court battle - no doubt funded by the taxpayers!
The Evening Standard reports Romanian gipsies who were move on at Marble Arch returned in 24 hours to camp out on the traffic island.
Some witnesses have said that they have committed crimes including knifepoint robberies and have been urinating in the streets.
Yet respectable self sufficient British nationals are not allowed to have their own spouses live with them in the UK.
You have all read about the G4S Olympic security fiasco. When G4S were asked how many of their recruited security staff could speak fluent English Mr Buckles G4S CEO said it was a difficult question to answer!
Security at Heathrow has been jeopardised because inexperienced security staff have reportedly missed five security alerts in one day!
Another report is that SERCO who operate the vehicle x-ray equipment at ports are being investigated after allegations they may have let in vehicles carrying materials for dirty bombs!
This is the situation as per Cameron May and Green who are not only xenophobic racists but totally incompetent in organising Britains security!
Geronimo please can you give me link to the DM reports . Need my spouse here asap very diificult situation round me spoke to barrister who as given me a lawyer to go to so he can be instructed through him and we are going to do a no application based on article 8 my right to family life and the support i need right now from my husband . I want justice in all this .
Thankyou Wj
wendy j
the DM Daily Mail online you can pick up easily. I have all the published news papers and I scour them for any info that we can use against Cameron May and Green their policy against immigrants like ourselves. I have been doing this for about 18 months and have three arch lever files of hard copy as well as bookmark on my computer/s.
Today at BBC Politics Yvette Cooper told Andrew Neil that the worsening results by the UKBA / Home Office were not the faults of the Human Rights Act or the Courts but the Governments failure to get the policy right!
In effect why is May chasing us respectable Brits and ignoring criminals terrorists and torturers? That what we have been asking right?
Ms Cooper laid the blame for current problems right at the Governments door! Just what we have been saying!
I am willing to give you / your lawyer / etc complete access to all my files if they are of use as information / evidence - and there is a lot of information from the Mail Guardian Independent Telegraph an Evening Standard .
I also hard copy reports on the UKBA by their Independent Chief Insp, John Vine who has been very critical.
Also Keith Vaz MP for Leicester who Chairs the Home Affairs Select Committee - which has criticised the UKBA big time.
I am prepared to make all my information / evidence available to your legal team if it assists your case in any way. Good luck 100% with you!
Thankyou i cant explain all on here private things about my situation ..... My husband is from Carribbean ..... Is there anyway i can link into you private ...... But i need my husband back here with me ... I dont care how far we go its making me ill because of everything ...... Do you think its worth me getting intouch with Keith Vaz Thanks G
wendy j
it's not advisable to give out out our emails on this site. On another site I blog on about the same subject I got attacked by 'trolls' who were trying to disrupt my blogs. What I suggest is ask your legal team to contact JCWI and get from them my email address. Your legal team can then email me I will explain to them the information / news reports I have in my files and they can then then decide if they need any of it.
Everything I have has been reported online over the last 18 months. I just print it and file it so what I have is all available from the public domain.
Best keep your email address private only available to JCWI or MRN OK. I will help with any / all information I have that your legal team feels they want. The information is all press reports and shows the complete fiasco of the Cameron May and Green immigration policy from Dec 2010 on OK.
I think every one on this site will support you but we don't know if there are some 'trolls' who post here who we need to avoid. good luck to you G
Thankyou i got no intention of being away from my husband he is needed here he is my rock ..... i dont care if i have to be splashed all over papers we been through hell and our love survived it all ..... Godbless G
wendy you can try your own MP. But if he/ she is a Tory or a Lib Dem then they will just toe the Govt line and fob you off / mislead you.
Thats what my MP did to me for 6 months until I realised what was happening!
If you have a Labour MP, like Keith Vaz. they can give you good advice and maybe help you. Its worth a try if your MP is Labour. we are with you G.
I have sent email demanding his position he is labour also i have emailed cris bryant want his answers to . But MPs office were really negative . It was only when a friend who doing a law masters got a immigration barrister call me and find me a lawyer in my area who could instruct him that i can go for no application on article 8 . Its not the way for everyone only because of my circumstances they thinking go this way . Will keep you informed on whats happening Goddbless W
wendy. good that you know someone in the legal side you can get help from many are not in that position. So it seems you are on the right track. Maybe the Labour MPs will take more interests after Yvette Coopers comments to Andrew Neil on Sunday BBC Politics yesterday. I am sure everyone on this website will be supporting you because we are all in the same situation and we all want to see some one take action against May. I blogged before about the Sept 2010 Matrix advise to Liberty UK that the Pre Entry English tests breached ECHR Articles 8 & 14.
I am sure your legal team will know already but for others interested its on the Liberty UK website in a 12 page report and is well worth reading - and even printing off for reference. Then there has been cases already taken to Court where the Judges have ruled against May and found her actions UNLAWFULL. So Cooper has been slow to take up the UNLAWFULL regulations of May which I think is because immigration has been demonised by many of the press and this Coalition Govt. So we all wish you the very best and I am sure we all support you big time.
We live in a so called Democratic country where a Tory PM and Ministers implement regulations against British nationals that the Courts have found UNLAWFULL. Its about time action was taken because we don't have Democracy we have Tory Hypocracy! Good luck we are with you G
I havent got the english test to worry about my husband is from Barbados . I am with some legal advisers this week my husband is my all . I will tell more about my story as things go on . Thankyou G
wendy
good to hear thats one hurdle out of the way for you. But you / we shouldn't have the other hurdles because we are British nationals who should have the freedom to marry who we chose and not who this Govt wants to dictate to us who we should marry.
As long as we meet the criteria of Article 8 thats all that should matter.
I had a surprise today. My wife emailed me she was phoning me at 1500 hrs UK time. Her broadband provider has just introduced a world wide mobile phone service for 1 baht per minute ( its 49baht to £1.00) so its very cheap. I spoke to my wife and my step son and we had a good talk all three of us. Just shows how some countries are far more advanced than the UK - in all their ideas! Visas into Thailand are far simpler and easy!
The Thais are a lot more understanding and tolerant that this UK Coalition anti immigration / anti foreigner Tory led bunch of hypocrits!
G there is a compnay called planet numbers in uk im not sure if you know but they have special phone codes to call abroad and it is pennies a min . Is it the english test your wife is having difficulties with . As your wife been to the UK yet ? I have a son and my husband as been a brilliant step father to him in the 6mnths he was in uk with us . From the carribbean we didnt have to apply for visitor visa we were grilled at the airport for 6 hours it was hell they refused at one point then after they grilled me more they allowed him his 6mnth visa i had to sponser him then so why all the fuss now . He as played a massive part in my sons psychiatric help he is having . Its made me so ill . We are a proven family with medical records to prove it . I have no family support they wished me dead when i married my husband because he is black .This goverment aint taking my God given right from me i want my husband back and now i cant eat just in pieces . Thanks for support G
wendy
my wife lived here in the UK with me from Oct 2008 until Jan 2011. We went to Thailand for Xmas. When we got back we applied for an extension of my wifes visa. We were refused on the grounds she had to take the Pre entry English computerised test introduced in Dec 2010.
I looked at the sample computerised test and knew that if I was having a problem understanding the questions my wife would. I also found out from my Doctors practice manage, a born and bred mature English lady, she had taken the sample test and failed. Her brother who has a Thai wife took the test and passed by one point. Conclusion the test is designed to fail so the UKBA / Home Office have an excuse tro refuse visas!
My wife returned to Thailand before her visa expired so not to be an 'overstay'. I went to my MP who misled me for six months!
He suggested I emigrate I thought why? Whe I asked him about my human rights to a family life he sia ' I am not a lawyer'! A good party man!
My wife now has her son living with her in our condominium. He is very gifted especially musically. I want them to be together as mom and son!
He has adopted me as his 'father' and I am fully behind them both. I lost my own son in 2007 so he is my joy as is my wife they are my family!
They are comfortable in Thailand but they both miss me. I can go visit them and do not want them to come and live in racist Britain now where foreigners are unwelcome. My neighbour is a retired Deputy Head Teacher. She says about the bullying that goes on in British schools!
When I go to Thailand I am welcomed and have good neighbours and friends there.
But I cannot / will not leave my home in the UK. I stay here to fight the loss of British freedoms by a Tory led right wing racist anti foreigner Govt that betrays British freedoms!
When the British people realise whats happening and Britain is seen as anti foreigner by the world the people will see how they have been mislead by this Tory led Govt and how Britains good will and standing diminishes affecting trade and the economy in what is now a global world!
That is appalling . These people cannot win i have no way of being with my husband there if someone said to me go there i would hit them esp how i feel right now G :)
wendy hold on now don't hit them with anything but the truth. Because the truth shows exactly who they are why they are doing it and what they want to achieve! They are manipulating the British public for their own political gains to get themselves more power. They are conning the British public and its starting to show. So we just bring the truth out over the internet and give it world wide publicity what the British politicians are doing.
The truth always comes out sooner or later in this case lets hope its sooner. Its already started to happen because the world now sees Britain, the Govt, the popular press, just hates foreigners! Cameron and the Tories have made that clear to the Europeans and other countries.
But other countries and peoples know that we the ordinary British citizen don't hate them. When we tell them the British Govt wont let our spouses live with us in Britain they are absolutely amazed. I meet many people when I travel we talk about our families. When I tell them my wife cannot live with me because my British Govt imposes restrictions they are amazed and just like you wendy feel outraged at the British Govt OK G
Good luck Wendy your fighting spirit inspires me I have just about given up hope . I am not in a position to be able to use a lawyer but have made an appointment to see my MP. My Albanian husband was nearly killed in this country someone tried to cut his throat so not only has he been left with a terrible scar under his face he has been sent back to a country that he hasn't lived in for 18 years to sleeping on his mums floor with no job prospects or anything. I hope you win your fight like you my husband is my world too good luck .
Natalie sorry to read your situation.
we should all throw out support behing wendy and help her and give her all the encouragement we can because its in all our interests.
Think why is the Tory Govt trying to introduce a UK Bill of Rights to replace the European Convention on Human Rights?
It isn't for the benefit of the British people! Its to water down the Human rights of British citizens and take the UK back to the pre Victorian era where the rich benefit and the rest of us have to dance to their tune.
The British people need to see how the Tory Govt are trying to dupe them so they can rule the roost!
Until the British public become aware of the propaganda used by the government and all the negativity by the press given to immigration nobody really seems to care unless it affects them. I am under the impression that the press as been silenced on this matter because none of the newspapers seem to publish the heartbreak and torment it causes to thousands of families we need our voice to be heard .
Natalie we can go online and post on as many websites as we can. But you need to be careful because you attract the anti immigration brigade trolls who try to swamp you with very often insulting and negative posts. I know I have had some. Other places you can get 'barred' I have had that as well. Remember that out there in the UK we have the BNP and EDL who are anti immigration of the football terrace variety and even threaten which I have experienced. So post with care chose you site and chose your words. I even had trolls on an MRN website and got censored on Open Democracy. Then you get people in the same situation who try to argue their point of view very personally. So post but tread carefully.
Don't forget you can post on overseas website like the Sydney Morning Herald or the San Francisco Times the world is open on the internet!
If you are gifted enough to speak a foreign language then why not use it to full effect. I quote from the British press all comments already in the public domain!
Thanks Geronimo for your advice I am new to all this so it is very welcome . I see my
MP on the 27th July when I spoke to his secretary she couldn't believe how ridiculous these new rules are. She was very helpful so fingers crossed that it may be of some help.
Natalie from what you said about the situation with your husband his being in danger I suggest you have a very good case to have it reconsidered.
Applicants are being allowed to stay in the UK because if they are returned to their own country they would be in danger of torture or death.
You have a very worrying situation with your husband. That will naturally be a very worrying situation on your good self.
I suggest your MP, of what ever political party, has a duty of care to consider and act vigorously for you asap in your and your husbands best interests.
It really is cases like yours that need wide publicity and the questions asked how the UKBA return your husband into a dangerous situation?
Cases like wendy's, your good self and similiar, needs addressing immediately especially where a person is in danger of harm.
Thank you for having the courage to publish your blog its very brave of you. I am sure we all wish you well. G
Natalie why wont they let your husband live here ??? I work with spirit Natalie thats where i get my strength through God i am so ill right now with all this . God made us all equal with equal spiritual rights and if God trust me with this fight to prove to this world nothing will stop me being with the man i love with all my heart so be it . I stood against racism from those who suppose to love me . I defended myself against a man who abused me . So this government is nothing if they think they going to deny me the one thing in this world i have prayed for and that is love . G thanks for your words of encouragement W :)
wendy and natalie do not make yourselves ill. You need to keep your strengths to continue the fight against this tyranny. Know that you have friends and people who empathise with your situations and understand and pray your torments will soon come to a swift end.
My wife and I are both Buddhists. We feel for the suffering of fellow human beings and are dismayed at the callous indifference of Cameron May Green and the Tory MPs who support this crude racist discrimination. Sit relax let you minds be clear and free to recharge yourselves. You are in the right and in the end right and justice will prevail over this abuse of power and authority by a Tory Govt.
You must be there in good health to rejoice with your spouses at that reunification!
Hi Wendy my story is long and complicated I met my husband over 2 years ago here in the uk he was here illegal he had been abused has a teenager and at 14 went to Greece to find his brother. He built up a good life in Greece until his childhood abuser turned up . My husband panicked sold everything he owned and came to the uk to live with his cousins. It was then I met him he eventually found work in a carwash that was run by Albanian gangmasters he worked 12 hours a day 7 days a week for a pittance and when he dared to speak up against these people he had his throat cut and 2 stab wounds in his arms . When he got to hospital the police picked up my now husband due to him been stabbed he was sent to a detention centre and released until these men were looked into the police found no evidence even though there was CCTV camaras which had been wiped and on the 3rd of April this year he was sent back to albania a country he hasn't lived in for 18 years with no job prospects and living on his mums floor. I love my husband so much and would not hesitate to move to his country I am not materialistic and would gladly survive over there as long as we were together but like you I have a child my 16 year old daughter hasn't been to school for 6 month due to severe anxiety never mind move to another country i feel like my hands are tied . I work full time but don't earn any where near enough to sponsor my husband so i feel like all hope is lost for us . So sorry for babbling on but we don't know where to go next .
Where did you marry your husband was it in uk , I had to go to designated immigration registry office and register the intent for 16days before we were granted permission was you given permission to marry in uk . Such difficult circumstances . Have you lived as a family is your daughter anxiety due to your husband not being here ??? I am learning more every day about things as i am getting help because its making me so ill under difficult circumstances as it is Godbless W
No Wendy we got married in albania on the 2nd of june this year such a brilliant day even though my family couldn't be with me due to them looking after my daughter. when my husband was stabbed he claimed asylum in the uk due to his attackers having connections with the Albanian government so he dare not move from his village to go to the city to look for work because he knows what connections these people have and the corruptions over. . My daughter was suffering from anxiety before I introduced her to my husband that's why we kept our relationship from her for so long but over the 6 month she knew him she grew to trust him and confide in him she even wrote a letter of support to immigration for him. We were due to move in together I got the keys to our new home in the 2nd of April and on the 3rd of April 7 ukba officers came to his cousins home even though he had stuck to all his restrictions and took him away to a detention centre and removed him to albania 2 week later. My daughter is still under going treatment from a child and adolescent mental health unit we need my husband here to support us but nobody seems to understand .
we married 2nd of june bless . My husband as been to all my sons help meetings he as supported all the things been put inplace my childs father died over 5yrs ago but was very abusive long story . We have been going to my sons therapy as a family and treated as a family me and my husband as his parents . We have played by the rules all along . We are a family and prove it in many ways . No one is taking my human right away from me . I know its harder if anyone as been here illegally maybe the human rights path will be easier then the visa app route and quicker .I will keep you in my prayers and pray for strength for all i am so weak at the min .
Thankyou Wendy I will pray for you too. Nobody knows how hard it is unless they are going through the same experience to hear a grown man cry everyday through frustration and wanting to be with his family . Sometimes I want to give up but our love for each other keeps us going . We haven't even put in for a visa application he took the ielts English test and scored overall 3.5 which is above A1 level but because they don't Mark at below b1 it wouldn't be accepted by ukba . I cannot afford a solicitor I am trying to support 2 famalies and because I work full time cannot get legal aid . Sometimes I don't know wether to give up how can a family survive seeing each other 2x a year. All we want to do is work hard and live a normal family life why is that too much to ask for we don't want to live on benifits I have worked all my life but I have to be realistic and wonder if there is any hope .
I dont know much about english test . My husband from carribbean . If you put in for visa my guess the refusal at first would be being in uk illegally before . In all the calls ive made that is what they have asked me as your husband ever been here illegally more so than the money requirement .Let us know how you get on with your MP W
I see my mp on 27 July so I will let you know . Yes i know it was a bad decision to enter uk illegally it was just the circumstances that surrounded it from the abuse he had has a child and he had family here. When he got removed from the uk it clearly stated on his asylum refusal papers that there was nothing to stop me going to his country and bringing him back legally ie has his wife. My husband isn't a criminal he is a victim who has spent most of his life running from his past .
I will keep you in my prayers so sad . The new immigration rules are harder on illegal over stayers . If there is any compassion and justice in this world you will be with your husband this year . The new rules are going to be tested in next few months as applications go through and people who love each other are determine to be together where ever they want to be including the Uk . This in one earth Gods earth and man will never divide it W
Again thankyou Wendy I hope oneday we can both post on here our joy at our husbands been with us. Could I ask your advice if you don't mind do you think it is worth even applying for a spouse visa?
BREAKING NEWS - The Supreme Court - Lord Hope, Lord Dyson, Lord Walker, Lord Clarke, and Lord Wilson have unanimously dismissed the Secretary of States appeal against Pankina.
Comments is that this will have huge implcations for the awful new immigration rules on family members.
At a stroke it almost certainly renders all the attempts to specify required documents to prove income and so on as unlawful, rendering the Appendix FM largely ineffective.
Comment continues - looks like the Home Office lawyers have gambled and lost on thisd one.
So Camerons May and Green new regulations have been found unlawful bt the supreme Court!
Natalie not sure im with lawyer friday ..... We may be going for no application of visa and go in for my husband to be here on srticle 8 the right to family life . Some lawyers are not charging a fortune and are allowing you to spread the cost dont be afraid to call and ask . See what happens when i been to lawyer and will be able to point you a little bit better . But it is brill what G as put up massive impact on the new rules W
Natalie not sure im with lawyer friday ..... We may be going for no application of visa and go in for my husband to be here on srticle 8 the right to family life . Some lawyers are not charging a fortune and are allowing you to spread the cost dont be afraid to call and ask . See what happens when i been to lawyer and will be able to point you a little bit better . But it is brill what G as put up massive impact on the new rules W
G where is the breaking news on the net
G i have found it i am reading the commonwealth citizen bit my husband is part of commonwealth could this also help me at all ??????
Hi G, this breaking news you've posted does that mean the immagration rules will go bk to how they were
Hi folks it will hit the press soon especially the Independent and Guardian newspapers. But yes the info I have is that Mays new family regs the UK Supreme Court 5 Judges has ruled they are UNLAWFUL!
The Supreme Courts have published a PRESS SUMMARY and a full public document is on www.supremecourt.gov.uk/decided-cases/index.html
I'm not a legal beagle but the comment of a man who is I blogged above in the news flash. So lets wait and get clarification.
But it looks as if May's regs have been declared unlawful by the Supreme Court because she hasn't put them before Parliament where they have to be passed into Law by Parliament to become legal - therefore that could apply to all May's regs which she hasn't put before Parliament!
Therefore that suggests all her regulations not put before Parliament and passed in as Law could be unlawful.
This is a Supreme Court Judgement 5 Judges have ruled can't get higher in the UK. The only place she could go now would be Stasbourg and that is very unlikely isn't it.
The witch may be getting herself burnt at last and she may have to take her poodle dogs body Green with her!
Good news folks it means she can be challenged in Court on the grounds of this Supreme Court Judgement - UNLAWFUL - means just that 3 cheers for the Supreme Court Justice is being serve! hip hip hooray 3 times!
I found this link also http://www.supremecourt.gov.uk/docs/UKSC_2011_0183_Judgment.pdf ........ G
Does this also mean the 18600 limit ?
according to the info I have it means income and probably more because the Supreme Court Rule May has to put all her regulations before Parliament to make them LAW. But they cannot transgress the ECHR because the UK is only one signatory of 47 countries!
I think you said your husband was in the UK illegally which I think could be a problem for you. Perhaps you should see a lawyer.
G all the info i have that is the biggest problem Natalie as and because she kept at first the relationship from her daughter because of anxiety it makes it hard to prove family life a little . But Natalie go see a lawyer they are all waiting to challenge these deplorable immigration rules W
Yes I know the big problem is his immigration history but he was told by ukba that there was no reason couldn't come back to the uk legally has my husband it also stated this on his refusal papers. Does anyone have a rough idea of how much a lawyer would cost and wether it would just be better off applying straight to the echr. Sorry I feel such a pain but like you Wendy it is all making me ill.
wendy I understand. when I blog here it is because I hope to help other people to learn from what I have been doing over the last 18 months. Hopefully so they don't fall into the same situations I have. But I think you situation is a lot clearer than natalie's and you should benenfit from this new Court Judgement. So should all of us because we now know we can challenge May in Court and she can be beaten.
But natalie's situation is tradgic and different and I think only a good lawyer can help her. Our situation is a straight family one which this last Judgement seems to address. I think you have a very good chance now and I hope you will keep us posted on your progress.
You know in the States they all get together and take a 'class action' i.e. a Group action - some of us have wondered whether we could do that between us all make a financial contribution to hire the lawyers to repesent us - say 100 of us at £1000 each. If we have a solid case and win the state pays our costs! We would have to challenge Mays regs like the Pre entry English test and her latest tests she's making harder of course.
Maybe you could ask you Lawyer friend. If May is now weak because of this Supreme Court Judgement it could be a good tome to challenge her again!
Natalie i will know better after friday as a barrister as advised depending on the lawyer to apply for no application through article 8 . Because of circumstances round me which means by passing immigration and delaying the process . I will let you know more friday but not happy putting personal info on here so will be brief . Im really ill because of this . It as picked me up with Gs link to here im getting a lawyer look at it now . Lawyers are all different and depends on case i think will let you know more as i say friday W
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